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Annapolis: a view from Amman

On the eve of the Annapolis conference in the United States, Prince Hassan bin Talal of Jordan proposes the key outlines of the Israeli-Palestinian and regional peace to which it should aspire.

The middle-east conference to be convened in Annapolis, Maryland on 27 November 2007 must, if it is to be effective, be conceived as a return to a peace-building process whose objective is to realise a permanent solution to the Israeli-Palestinian impasse. Most of the issues to be addressed are exceptionally complex: they relate in particular to the overwhelming issue of the Palestinian diaspora, and include matters such as confidence-building, inclusive security, regional conflict-prevention, attitudes to extremists, the gap between final and permanent status, and the need to combine a peace process with a reconciliation process.

The discussion in advance of the conference has included the significant letter sent to the United States president and secretary of state on 10 October by a distinguished non-partisan group of former senior US officials: Zbigniew Brzezinski, Lee H Hamilton, Carla Hills, Nancy Kassebaum-Baker, Thomas R. Pickering, Brent Scowcroft, Theodore C Sorensen, and Paul Volcker (see "'Failure Risks Devastating Consequences", New York Review of Books, 8 November 2007).

The letter, in stating that a "positive outcome" at the conference "could play a critical role in stemming the rising tide of instability and violence" also emphasises that this is a moment to display "the ambition as well as the courage to chart new ground and take bold steps".

Prince Hassan bin Talal is a senior member of the Jordanian royal family, and president of the Arab Thought Forum. His official website is hereIn light of this and other contributions, what follows is the view from Amman, as I see it, on the eve of the Annapolis conference. The text is in two parts: the first dealing with the core ingredients of a peace settlement, and the second with some of the outstanding questions that it needs to address if the settlement is to endure.

Part One: In transit - how peace begins

Peace and reconciliation

Peace is not reconciliation. What is needed between Israelis and Palestinians is genuine reconciliation. This has to start with an acknowledgment of the genuine claims of the Palestinians and the acceptance of responsibility for what happened to them. Reconciliation mechanisms include truth commissions and victim compensation. Addressing claims by both sides as to the wrongs they have suffered in order to settle the record and avoid the festering of claims is desirable. This mechanism should be used for reconciliation as well as for the reduction of prejudice and hatred. The time has come to shed prejudice and build intra-societal dynamics and respect for the other irrespective of national origin, religion, and creed.

Without reconciliation there can be no lasting peace. Peace treaties are instruments through which we can arrive at a "warm peace" between adversaries. The two peace treaties that did not succeed in achieving warm peace are those between Israel and Egypt and Jordan respectively; this outcome is due to the failure to normalise inter-state peace in the ranks of the people and to transform the official state-to-state accords into human accord between people. That can only be achieved if human justice is assured through the application of the agreed terms on the ground. A fear of people-to-people peace must be overcome. Beyond bilateral peacemaking, regional cooperation could craft a new partnership in the region to replace rejection and hatred with visible mutual respect and acceptance as well as humanitarian standards of interaction.

Confidence-building

Before the commencement of negotiations, a number of confidence-building measures can be implemented: for example, the bilateral release of detained people, the removal of checkpoints or mahsums, free access to places of worship in Jerusalem, and both sides' decision to refrain from violence.

As these take effect, other specific measures should be developed; some should apply immediately and others throughout the course of the negotiations as means to implement any agreement reached. Respect for human life and for people's dignity is essential to confidence-building, as is the primacy of rule of law and stability. There is a need for international support to establish a legal system and the rule of law in Palestine as a way of insuring its future stability, paving the way to democracy, encouraging foreign investment and economic development and guaranteeing the existence of a peaceful, secular and democratic state.

From final status to permanent status

The dynamics between "final status" and "permanent status" provide the missing link to lasting peace. The question is: how to bridge that gap? Final status is bilateral. Permanent status starts with confidence-building measures and ends with fundamental and comprehensive, not selective, guarantees of a regional order.

Also in openDemocracy on the Israeli-Palestinian impasse and the Annapolis conference:

Richard Youngs, "The European Union and Palestine: a new engagement" (28 March 2007)

Mient Jan Faber & Mary Kaldor, "Palestine's human insecurity: a Gaza report" (20 May 2007)

Pierre Schori, "Europe and the Arab world: divided souls" (30 May 2007)

Daniel Seidemann, "Annapolis and the ‘Jerusalem paradigm'" (30 October 2007)

Mariano Aguirre & Mark Taylor, "Annapolis: how to avoid failure" (12 November 2007)

Khaled Hroub, "Annapolis and absurdity" (22 November 2007)

Final status is reached at the conclusion of negotiations between adversaries - Palestinians and Israelis in our case. A more important goal is a permanent-status solution in which cooperation becomes the order of the day.

Statehood

It is clear that there is broad consensus that there is to be a Palestinian state. This necessarily implies that its nationals will enjoy citizenship rights in their country. The issues here are different and concern the sovereignty of the state: they include its communications with other neighbouring states; freedom of egress and ingress; how the state will administer its airport and port facilities; customs, police and security issues; whether it will have a sovereign army or be demilitarised; and the extent of any limitations on its right to make independent treaties.

The majority of people in the world enjoy the benefits and responsibilities of citizenship as a fundamental right; the Palestinians should not be an exception if peace is to endure. The two-state solution could undoubtedly be a wise one. It would be wiser yet to honour United Nations resolutions that address the issue of Israel's occupation of the Palestinian territories. Acquisition of any territory by force should not be condoned nor should such acquisition be rewarded.

The continued acquisition of territory endangers hopes for any viable Palestinian state. The retention of any Palestinian territories by Israel should only be accepted by mutual consent based on minor adjustments of the 4 June 1967 lines and on the basis of fair reciprocity concerning the areas exchanged and their respective potential and market value. Issues of a trans-boundary nature should be addressed and resolved; these include (but are not limited to) water resources, transportation, electrical transmission, labour rights and drug-trafficking and other criminal issues. The issue of citizenship of the two states should be agreed upon and reciprocity guaranteed.

The matter of Palestinian statehood and all the complexities of trans-boundary issues are not limited to Palestinians because the diameter of conflict goes beyond the parameter to all national "brand names". An appreciation of the regional carrying capacity (or aménagement de territoire) would introduce socio-economic planning parameters for all the riparians of the Jordan Valley within a water and energy community for the environment, following the model of the coal and steel community which was seminal to the creation of the European Union. Such models can also be applied to the other vital elements pertaining to sovereignty as previously touched upon; among them boundary-crossings, air and maritime navigation, army and police.

Security

The issue of security for both Israel and the Palestinian state is not solely a bilateral concern. Except for specifically bilateral issues, the security of Israel and the Palestinians should be the shared responsibility of the outer-perimeter countries. Any threat to their security coming from the east would threaten Jordan as well. The same applies to dangers coming from the north or south: these would threaten the respective perimeter countries. A meaningful security arrangement should depend on a regional order, including a pact for the elimination of weapons of mass destruction and other forms of arms control, rather than mere unilateral deterrent instruments.

Achieving full inclusiveness requires a regional code of conduct for a process of human security and cooperation; this in turn would include a regional community for water and energy and a regional social charter. These instruments should constitute the building-blocks for a regional security package consolidated by the establishment of a Conference on Security and Cooperation for the Middle East. Again, I emphasise that Europe provides an ideal model for such a structure. A conflict-prevention capability must form an integral part of such a process. A country which is party to a regional security conference must not pursue the development of weapons of mass destruction.

These measures would help move the region away from unilateral partisan prejudice to a regional approach of intra-independence, initiating a new societal dynamic where morality and good governance in economy and society would open the way for more inclusion of citizens in matters concerning their welfare and destiny.

There have been "track I" and "track II" negotiations between Jordan and Israel; Egypt and Israel; and Jordan, Egypt and Israel - which have over the past ten years demonstrated that such undertakings can produce useful results.

Attitudes to "extremists" and "the other"

The western attitude to Hamas and its translation into action by western governments has not been even-handed. There are groups similar to Hamas in Israel, among western Jews and also among Christians - and for that matter among many religious denominations and political persuasions. But that does not mean that all of the members of such a group are extremists nor does it mean that some of their extreme views cannot be negotiated. Yet, while Hamas is condemned and boycotted by all, similar groups such as those mentioned above are supported in the west, both by the private and public sectors. Legitimising everything that is done on one side and demonising everything that is done by the other side is a historically failed recipe for peace. Even-handedness is a much-needed prescription to address the complicated issues of conflict.

Part Two: Resources, faiths, and refugees

The new state of Palestine must have the capacity to sustain itself and to develop. Without economic viability and the prospect of economic growth, it will turn into a de facto Bantustan for Israel, offering only cheap labour and ultimately a great deal of increasing alienation and suffering. An economically emergent Palestine, beginning with economic and human guarantees for the Palestinians themselves, is the key to stability and peace. Thus, it is indispensable to have an economic-development plan at the ready so that any part of it that would need the mutual cooperation of the two states is taken into account within the proposed peace agreement.

This plan must include such matters as currency convertibility, freedom of movement of goods, access to ports and airports, reduction of restrictions on freedom of movement of people and secure investment opportunities. In addition, joint economic-growth projects must be considered in depth, which would include Jordan in such comprehensive and far-reaching issues as: sharing of water resources, various water and irrigation projects, a joint transportation system (roads, buses and trains) that offer the potential of practically connecting the three states and enhancing their respective economies, joint or shared utilities and other similar sub-regional infrastructure projects (some of which, in the Gaza area, may also involve Egypt). In short, economic interrelationships and mutual economic interests not only make for a healthy neighbourhood but also consolidate peace through real economic empowerment, ultimately translating into real social improvement.

The population-resources equation

This factor must be examined carefully. We must ensure equity in resource- allocation. The production of Jaffa oranges, which are grown with water drawn from the coastal aquifer and from the Jordan River, has resulted in Palestinians being denied access to their traditional water sources. Examples such as this highlight the need to address resource allocation in a comprehensive manner. The territories of historic Palestine are water- and energy-poor; but there are unproven reserves of natural gas in the territorial waters which may be extractable in the future.

Resource allocation will remain a vital issue, not only in the lands of historic Palestine but also in the outer-perimeter countries due to demographic shifts within the region and from outside. The long-standing animosity surronding this protracted conflict has not only barred cooperation between the outer-perimeter countries and Israel on the protection of natural resources, but has adversely impacted these shared resources. For instance, the unilateral actions undertaken by Israel and by Jordan and, separately, by Syria have adversely impacted on the Dead Sea basin including the Jordan River system and the Dead Sea itself.

The population-to-natural-resources equation largely determines the carrying capacity of physical land space. Admittedly, there have been distortions in this equation. The crucial issue of carrying capacity can only be addressed by a supranational authority, because only a supranational authority could be expected to be non-partisan in terms of human, economic and natural resources. Such an authority should in no way proscribe the attainment of final status. Carrying capacity (and recovery capacity for that matter) is a medium-to-long-term policy vision of intra-state and intra-communal relations through a rational utilisation of competing resources. A supranational vision would promote equity where now there is asymmetry, and sharing where now there is dominance by one side over another.

After almost a century of enmity and confrontation, the time has come for a meaningful recovery from human suffering on all sides and for environmental recovery. People's recovery includes their empowerment to fight want, enjoy human rights and exercise democracy; to reap the benefits of societal innovation during the transitional stages; to normalcy of relations between nationalities and between peoples and their systems of government. All this should be underlined by efforts to aid the human capacity to recover from the traumatic effects of protracted conflict. The recovery of natural resources would be possible through regional cooperation in mechanisms such as the proposed community of water and energy and other concepts that promote supranational innovation and interdependence.

It is necessary at this point to emphasise that any move towards economic and social development, in addition to peace-building, must be founded on humanitarian principles, respecting life and dignity. Israel has for too long used might as a right against the Palestinians, looking at Arab and Muslims as the enemy. This must change. Similarly, Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims must learn to look at Israelis and Jews in a positive manner. We must revive the essence of beliefs that existed at the foundation of the Abrahamic faiths, beginning with reclaiming the dignity of the human being. Without that there can be no peace, no reconciliation and no future for this region or beyond.

Jerusalem

The overwhelming historic and spiritual importance of Jerusalem to all Abrahamic faiths and thus to all believers in the world, as well as others for whom Jerusalem and its sites (holy and archaeological) are part of the world's cultural heritage, makes this among the most sensitive issues of the conflict. This is a city with a unique status in the consciousness of the great monotheistic faiths.

Therefore we must confront the challenge of preserving the municipal administration of the city as an integral whole but with rigid observance of equal treatment to all religious denominations and equal participation of representatives of all faith communities in the city's government. This may require special-status legislation for Jerusalem within the context of a municipal administration with independent moral authority above all others in order to guarantee non-discrimination.

Jurisdiction over the walled city of Jerusalem is of vital importance. This issue encompasses the preservation of moral authority for the city in terms of ecumenical communication among the three monotheistic faiths, with no faith impairing the functioning of another. Moreover, the Jordan-Israel peace treaty gives Jordan a specific role in the management of the holy sites of the city, both Muslim and Christian. This requirement recognises the rights of all Arabs, Muslims and Christians, in the management of their holy space. Viewing the city, old and new, merely within the limited and short-sighted parameters of a territorial and political bargaining-chip ignores this important spiritual role and this moral responsibility. The city of Jerusalem, within its spiritual and emotional context, can contribute greatly to recovery, cooperation and the sustainability of peace.

Territories surrounding walled Jerusalem are subject to the provisions governing the fate of the occupied territories. Distrust should be allayed through reconciliatory acts on the ground. The issue of faith communities' right of return to Jerusalem, which also applies to internally-displaced persons, is essential within this context. For example, we could ask what message is sent to the Palestinians of Shu'fat when it is proposed that the town be dislocated from the Greater Jerusalem area in return for its refugees relinquishing their right of return.

Jerusalem and other holy sites have a special significance for the followers of the three Abrahamic faiths as reflected in the faith-based communities living in the region of these holy sites. It is therefore important to be sensitive to the maintenance of these communities as historically relevant and culturally and spiritually irreplaceable and to reject depopulation policies.

On refugees: the right of return

The right to leave and return to one's own state is guaranteed in the international covenant on civil and political rights without discrimination. No discrimination should be used against the Palestinians seeking to come home. This is a binding legal obligation and not merely a principle of justice and equality. The Palestinians' right of return must be recognised in the successor state, namely Israel. That principle has to be recognised even though for a variety of reasons there may be conditions on the exercise of such a right, for example family reunification. For those denied such a right of return, the principle of compensation should be established and the peace treaty should contain a mechanism for such compensation. Those who could not exercise their right of return in the successor state and who have been given compensation should be allowed to settle in the new state of Palestine.

The right of return for Palestinian refugees in accordance with the principles of justice and equality is a primary issue. If the right of return is to be denied to Palestinian refugees and those living in the diaspora, it should equally be denied to non-Israeli Jews living in that diaspora.

There is also an imperative issue of the legal characterisation of the new state of Palestine. It could be considered as a successor state of the original state of Palestine in reliance upon the 1947 partition plan of the general assembly of the United Nations, with respect to the territories occupied by Israel, post-1967, which had been administered by Jordan and by Egypt, acting as de facto trusties of these territories.

Palestinian refugees, displaced and stateless families, scattered across the world, and particularly in neighbouring countries, are a key factor in resolving the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. The denial of their existence, plight, misery, humanitarian aspirations, dignity and right to lead a normal life in a country of their own would drive the younger generation of refugees, and others, to further despair, frustration and extremism. The ultimate goal of the peace process - to have a durable peace, a stable region and normal and popular acceptance of Israel - cannot be achieved through denial of the refugee issue.

On the other hand, the claim that responding to the Palestinian refugees' aspirations would erase the Jewishness of the state of Israel is simply distorted. Israel itself has stretched the definition of "Jewishness" by practically "importing" people from Sudan, Russia, Ethiopia and South America. Not all of these immigrants can claim a pure Jewish bloodline. The latest studies offer triumphant figures of greater Israeli population growth than Palestinian. Recognising the rights of the refugees, as displaced and stateless persons, is a matter of human, moral and legal importance. While the implementation of such rights is a matter that involves difficult decisions for a new life, new citizenship, expenses of restarting, and time-span (among other issues), the assumption that time will make the refugees forget their rights and that new generations will be less insistent is an illusion.

Foremost among the rights of refugees is the right to compensation: for those who had to leave as well as those who were expelled over the years or prevented from returning.

Conclusion

This is a conflict which should have run its course. Paradoxically, it has come full circle after over sixty years involving five international wars and a harsh occupation for a large segment of the Palestinian which continues today.

In 1947 a partition plan was proposed which was rejected by the Arab states. Following that the state of Israel was established in 1948. After the first war between the newly-founded state of Israel and the Palestinians and supporting Arab states, armistice agreements were established in 1949, leaving Israel with 23% more of the territory allotted to it by the partition plan. Since then the Palestinians and Arab states at first rejected the state of Israel and shunned peaceful coexistence with it. The subsequent acceptance by treaty of Israel by Egypt and Jordan gives hope that a similar peace treaty will follow with Syria and Lebanon. This would complete the circle of peace between these contiguous states.

To the Palestinians and their Arab supporters, the acceptance of a two-state solution is a return to the partition plan, which was earlier rejected. It is one of the tragedies of humanity that political settlements must sometimes be forged through years of hardship and pain but now that we have reached this point, it is essential to make sure that the two-state solution works. That is why, in addition to peace, we need mechanisms for reconciliation, economic development initiatives, allocation of resources, joint enterprises and mechanisms and structures for effective cooperation between states.

The nature of the future state of Palestine will depend very much on the degree of cooperation and support it gets from the state of Israel, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan and the Arab Republic of Egypt. Laying down the foundations for this sub-regional community will not only be of importance for the economic viability of Palestine, but also for the sub-region's peaceful coexistence, prosperity and security. Just as Palestine needs Israel for its economic development, so Israel needs Palestine for its security, and all four states need to cooperate for a peaceful and prosperous future.

A mere peace agreement cannot be viewed as the sole requirement to achieve a lasting peace. It must be followed by a number of other agreements and mechanisms which further its goals and aspirations. Without these supporting measures, the issues raised in this article and perhaps many more, will fester and the imagined peace will only raise expectations without establishing foundations for its fulfilment. The past offers many examples of such disappointment. Enforcement measures and transitional mechanisms to peace are essential to esure a smooth implementation of a final settlement. These would also provide a confidence-building infrastructure and help deal with future difficulties.

Peace will not endure with just one agreement.

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Peacenik said:



Mon, 2007-11-26 15:39
With all the empty rhetoric, hatred and self-interest of 'concerned' national and international politicians, the only achievment has been the perpetuation of misery and death. How amazing that while they have been and gone Prince Hassan remains the only true middle-east statesman we have. Remarkable that his unshakeable belief in a just and fair solution and his unparalleled knowlege should be sidelined while the politicians and dictators (probably) view Annapolis as yet another platform for their futile words.

dominikwach said:



Mon, 2007-11-26 18:53
I must agree with author, some kind of regional union (modeled after EU) could help the peace process. Also, I think that this idea should be developed with two-state one at the same time. Some kind of union between Israel, Palestine and Jordan could be a good beginning, later they can add Egypt, Lebanon and maybe Syria. But unfortunately I don't believe that Annapolis conference will change anything and we'll have to wait few years for another chance. The main problem at the moment is lack of recognition. Without Hamas' participation there will never be peace. The same situation is with Hezbollah in Lebanon. International community should try to moderate this organisations, not to marginalise them.

blameislam said:



Mon, 2007-11-26 20:26
Prince Hassan makes a lot of sense as he always has. It is important to have a fair settlement for all if this conflict is to end.

deborah.gordon said:



Mon, 2007-11-26 20:28
The two state solution is dead and the sooner Western and Arab intellectuals get used to it the better. There is no viable Palestinian state on the offering, Gaza is being strangled economically, politically, and socially with children being denied medical treatment. Zionism is a failure. The most insecure place in the world to be a Jew is Israel. There is no future at Annapolis for the Palestinians, nor for Israeli Jews who wish to live as citizens in a modern, non-ethnically exclusive state with their Palestinian, Mizrahim, and Russian fellow citizens. It's past time for a serious discussion about binationality, secularism, and the transformation of the single state that Israelis and Palestinians are already in to a democratic state founded on equality for all and not various gradations of ethnic or religious exclusivity. The latter is no basis for citizenship in the 21st century, but there must be a way and a place for Jews to find refuge should there be threats to their existence in Europe, which is where anti-Semitism originates and would be most likely to emerge again. The Arab leadership is no more useless than that of the British, when it comes to Palestinian sovereignty and human rights. Both are dangerous in what they would like to force on the Palestinian people, so each can maintain its own model of despotism under the signs of "democracy" or "reform" respectively.

jdubow said:



Mon, 2007-11-26 21:00
It is really much less complicated than the Prince suggests. The key question on Israel is whether the Arabs are willing to accept the 1948 UN Treaty mandating the establishment of Israel as a Jewish state and homeland. The reasons for its' establishment were and are crystal clear: Jews have a significant history in the area and they need a homeland to survive in if other states where they live either turn on them or are forced to turn on them. The State of Israel occupies about 1/1000 of the Middle East and the other 999/1000 are occupied by Arabs, including Palestinians. If Israel is accepted as a Jewish State with the 1948 boundaries, or the 1967 boundaries then all other issues will and can be worked out readily. If the Arabs don't accept the existance of Israel as a Jewish state then everything becomes "really complicated" with the goal of forcing ever more compromises and concessions on Israel until it can be wiped of the earth and its people slaughtered Prince Hassan of all people might be expected to evidence an awareness of the issue since Jordan has a tradition of the most Progressive of the Arab regimes and the one most closely aware of Western Values (with the exception of pre-Syrian Lebanon). To have him state "It's past time for a serious discussion about binationality, secularism, and the transformation of the single state that Israelis and Palestinians are already in to a democratic state founded on equality for all and not various gradations of ethnic or religious exclusivity." is to demand that Israel, as the realization of the 2000 year quest of Jews to return to their homeland, cease to exist and and that the Jews be exposed to the tender mercies of the Arabs. On the subject, it is difficult not to point out the intrinsic hypocrisy of the Prince's long dissumulating essay. Jordan was formed as part of the Palestinian mandate by the UN in 1948. The Prince and others call the issue of the Palestinians the most important problem for them. For most people their most important problem is one that they would be willing to contribute to solving. For example, as part of the solution Jordan, as part of the original Palestine, might cede some presently unoccupied land to the Palestinian state and grant the state free trade and other assistance for survival. There is no logical reason for all concessions to come from Israel and for agreements made by each side to have consequences if not met. Alas, the Prince repeats the Arab formula demanding the dismantling of Israel, refusing to guarantee agreements made with the Israelis or make any Jordanian contributions to the peace process. While this plays well for the US mainstream media, which is too shallow to understand the issues, thoughtful people will understand that this binary proposal has nothing to offer Israel or those people who believe it has a historical well earned present day right to exist. Given the view from Jordan it is clear that Annapolis is a toss off meeting for the Arabs while waiting and hoping that a more liberal, Arab-friendly American Administration can restart the ongoing sixty year process of taking pieces out of Israel until it dies.

ai_1 said:



Mon, 2007-11-26 21:29
One can quibble with a number of points, but overall Prince El Hassan bin Talal represents a vision which is humane, important and, indeed, necessary. Two points in particular. Firstly, the importance of reconciliation, not just of "cold peace" among politicians. Otherwise any peace will be vulnerable to extremists, to cynical politicians and to the sort of events that happen in the course of human history and can be always manipulated. This means recognising past wrongs and past pain, but also current and future legitimacy of national aspirations of both sides. Secondly, the importance of regional frameworks. Peace must work for both sides at the people level, improve lives and, in the case of refugees, rehabilitate lives. This will require cooperation and this will require generous funding, a Marshall Plan for Palestinians. And, needless to say, full help from a country which, with all its faults, is world-beating in two essential skills: rehabilitating refugees and running low-environmental-impact, super-modern agriculture in an arid setting. In other words, Israel. My only quibble which I feel must be addressed is the throwaway remark about "importing immigrants from Sudan". There are not and (as far as I am aware) never have been Jews in Sudan. These "imported" Sudanese are Darfur refugees, all Muslims, who fled through Egypt and were given shelter in Israel. It is a matter of shame to Arab countries that they have not seen fit to take part in similar "import".

geoffreyalderman said:



Mon, 2007-11-26 21:40
Unfortunately, but perhaps predictably, this article is almost totally lacking in the geopolitical reality that might otherwise mark it as a useful, positive contribution to talking about talking about peace in the Middle East. Whilst there is much talk about the 'right of return' of Palestinian Arabs, or of compensation in lieu, there is no recognition of the 'forgotten refugees' of the Middle East, namely the 850,000 or so Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Arab lands - at the behest of the Arab League - between 1948 and 1952. Secondly, there is no recognition of the need to address the corrosive role of a relentless anti-Jewish discourse in the Arab media - a discourse that is reflected, incidentally, in the founding Charter of Hamas. Thirdly, there is, at least implicitly, no acknowledgment of the fact that Jordan - that is, that part of Mandate Palestine east of the Jordan River - is already a Palestinian Arab state. The writer seems unaware that freedom of worship already exists for all faiths in Jerusalem. His questioning of the immigration policy of the sovereign state of Israel is an impertinence. His reference to the Jordanian annexation of Judea and Samaria as a species of trusteeship is breathtaking. The European Union is a loose social and economic alliance of sovereign states, each of which retains a right to bar members of other states from immigration. The model of economic co-operation that it provides no doubt has much to commend it. Applied - in the way Prince Hassan seems to want - to Israel and its Arab neighbours it would inevitably result in the disappearance, over time, of Israel as a Jewish state. Perhaps this is the writer's ultimate intention. Professor Geoffrey Alderman

eric_5 said:



Mon, 2007-11-26 21:50
Don't we all? The Jewish homelands in Brooklyn and Miami are more inviting, surely, than the hellhole that Zionists have created in the Middle East. "shame to Arab countries" There are millions of refugees in Arab countries, most of them created by Israel's colonization of Palestine and quite a few by the US/UK, through their criminal aggression against Iraq.

ai_1 said:



Mon, 2007-11-26 22:41
eric_5 writes "he Jewish homelands in Brooklyn and Miami are more inviting, surely, than the hellhole that Zionists have created in the Middle East." It is sad and disgusting when racist bilge is spilt all over openDemocracy. I gather that two racists were prevented from speaking in Oxford Union this evening. And one racist was allowed to post here.

Brendan 2 said:



Tue, 2007-11-27 00:42
There is nothing racist about that. It is a statement of fact. A state based upon your confessional preferences is laughable and destined for the dustbin of history. That Professor Geoffrey Alderman and ai_1 fail to understand the scope of the failure is their problem and specious accusations of racism contribute nothing to real debate.

ai_1 said:



Tue, 2007-11-27 09:15
"There is nothing racist about that. It is a statement of fact." What is a statement of fact? That Jews should be relocated to Brooklyn and Miami? Only Israeli Jews? All Jews? And how do you propose to do it, Sir? Trains? Cattle trucks? "A state based upon your confessional preferences": And who are you to decide whether Jews aren't an ethnic group? Are you in the Jewish Department of RSHA? Do describe your expertise, Sir. The truth of the matter is that there is a serious discussion going on. Trenchant views are expressed on both sides of the debate and trenchant views can be expressed honourably. It is possible to be an anti-Zionist without being an antisemite and it is possible to be anti-Palestinian without being an Islamophobe. But at the fringes this discussion attracts straightforward racists of the most despicable kind. It provides them an alibi to spout their hate.

eric_5 said:



Tue, 2007-11-27 16:26
Is the United States not a Jewish homeland? To deny that Americans who are ethnically Jewish, are not in their homeland in Brooklyn and Miami (or anywhere else in the country) is inflammatory talk, indeed.

eric_5 said:



Tue, 2007-11-27 16:30
The 'discussion' is, largely, US/Israel propaganda designed to waste time while Israel continues to commit violations of international law or even, with some luck, persuade tame Palestinian 'leaders' to sign away Palestinian land and so sanitize the ongoing colonization of Palestine by Israel with some semblance of legality.

ai_1 said:



Tue, 2007-11-27 16:52
You, eric_5, might in your mind traipse all over the globe in your jackboots, telling Jewish üntermenschen where is and where is not their homeland, while your soul-mate Brendan 2 tells them what they are and what they are not. Well, Jews, whether in Brooklyn or in Tel Aviv, have the same right to decide where is their homeland as Palestinians or Brits or Rwandans. And if you don't like it, this is your problem. Take your racism elsewhere. BNP will be a good place to start but, given that they try to appear "respectable" these days, you might seek a more explicit racist grouping.

eric_5 said:



Tue, 2007-11-27 17:40
"Well, Jews, whether in Brooklyn or in Tel Aviv, have the same right to decide where is their homeland as Palestinians or Brits or Rwandans." Most Jews have, very sensibly, stayed away from the Middle East hellhole that Zionism has created. Around 750,000 Israelis are living abroad (the number fluctuates), a very high number for such a small population. Palestinians, on the other hand, face greater obstacles. Refugees whose families were ethnically cleansed in Israel's colonization of Palestine are denied the right to return. A Palestinian state, for some never explained reason, is a matter for Israel to decide and which has been denied, concentration camps having been set up by the Israelis instead. Incidentally, if you're going to deal in pro-Semitic gibberish, a discussion group is not the most appropriate place.

Brendan 2 said:



Tue, 2007-11-27 20:46
AI 1 It is a statement of fact that the current Jewish state faces ongoing opposition forever without a rethinking of Zionism. I referenced this in the title of my post, which you chose to interpret as something else entirely. That is your problem. You are in need of a more balanced view of the dispute, which is over territory and not ethnicity. Throwing terms like "racist" around is hardly a productive way of asserting your opinion and that is exactly what I was pointing out to you.

ai_1 said:



Tue, 2007-11-27 23:22
Did I misquote you, Brendan? Was "state based upon your confessional preferences is laughable and destined for the dustbin of history" a figment of my imagination or did it misquote you in any way, shape or form? And it is a misinterpretation to regard the essence of this statement as Jews being a religious group, rather than ethnicity, and hence having no right for a state of their own? If you meant something entirely different, lease explain. But if you meant it, what is the basis of your statement? And what gives you the right to decide for Jews how they feel about themselves: as a religious group, or ethnicity, or a cultural group. (And, incidentally, different Jews will feel differently about it.) My contention is that nobody has the right to tell other people, be it Palestinians, Jews, Chechens, whatsoever, what they are and what they should be. (You have every right to tell them that they should reconcile their identity with others, but that's something different.) And once you wish to base your political preferences on your arbitrary decision, you are steering very near to racism. This has nothing to do with your headline. Zionism might or might not be a failure, and this is open to debate without allegations of ill faith or racism. It is the nature of your argument, not your opposition to Zionism, that is racist.

eric_5 said:



Tue, 2007-11-27 23:41
Zionism is racist. Opposition to it may be, simply, anti-racist.

Brendan 2 said:



Wed, 2007-11-28 00:40
This most recent quote is certainly my opinion and apparently you are unaware that it is possible to convert to judaism. Now given that you, or I, could, with some perseverance, become Jewish, how then is it a race I might ask? I am not suggesting that Jews are not persecuted or that anti-semitism does not exist by this but I am undermining your 'ethnic' argument in very simple terms. A state that claims to be secular but populates disputed territory through world wide invitations to return to the biblical homeland is laughable in my opinion. And my opinion is not racist in any way, shape or form.

ai_1 said:



Wed, 2007-11-28 09:32
It is rather farcical, Brendan, to accuse me of misquoting you while you are rephrasing precisely the quote attributed to you. Of course, Jews are not a "race". A race is a 19th century concept invented in order to stigmatise human groups or, alternatively, claim that same groups are superior. It has no validity except perhaps in some postmodernist, meaning-free, outlook. Africans are not a "race" either. There are no races – but (regretfully) there are racists. It is possible to become a Jew in a number of ways and views vary widely within Jewish communities. The idea that Jews are exclusively religion, though, is a non-starter. Not just in Israel but in UK and elsewhere in the world most people who define themselves as Jews are secular and many of them (like me) are atheists. I am not aware that Jews (or anybody else, except perhaps for your friends and family) should consult you about matters of identity. The ABC of anti-racism and multicultural society is that individuals are free to navigate their own identity. It is BNP and their likes who impose identity on others and decide who is what. I am afraid that if you agree with them in general then you are racist. And if you agree with them only with respect to Jews – well, also then you are racist. "A state that claims to be secular but populates disputed territory...": If you mean Israeli settlements in the Occupied Territories then opposing them (needless to say) is not racist. Opposing them is absolutely right. But this has nothing to do with the nature of what Jews are and everything to do with the illegality of the settlements and with the real damage they cause to Palestinians. I really hope that you can think again about your views and see now they segue (perhaps unintentionally) into classical racism. Being against specific policies or acts of any party is legitimate (whether right or wrong), generalising from this into racist or bigoted outlook is not. It is equally wrong to generalise from opposition to 7/7 to bigoted views of Muslims and Islam, as it is from opposition to Israeli policies to antisemitism.

eric_5 said:



Wed, 2007-11-28 11:20
The Jewish state is constitutionally racist.

eric_5 said:



Wed, 2007-11-28 15:18
Precisely. The Jewish state imposes non-Jewish identity and, therefore, inferior status, on all those not accepted as Jewish, where the question is relevant. This is the nature of pro-Semitic racism. The BNP, likewise, takes white Anglo-Saxon as the default position and all those not in that category are to be viewed with suspicion or outright hostility. White supremacy is exactly the same principle as the Jews-first position of Israeli Zionism.

Michael T Sager said:



Wed, 2007-11-28 15:25
One of the bases for stable states is some form of shared identity. And stable states lead to stable international relations. The Republic of Ireland was based on the shared identity of Catholicism. Germany (still I believe) is more prepared to accept historically ethnic Germans in Eastern Europe whose ancestors have been nowhere near Germany for centuries than people of Turkish background who have lived there all or most of their lives. Saudi Arabia is firmly Arab Muslim: overt Jews are not allowed in, Christians are not allowed to practice their religion there. Iraq is breaking up over Sunni, Shi'ite and Kurdish identites. Yugoslavia setlled down once peoples' identities were able to be recognised by nation states. Canada's problem is basically identity by language and culture. Britain is breaking up over identity also, whereas Australia seems to remain coherent by morphing away from its original British identity. This was recognised when the UN in 47 passed the resolution to form 2 states in the Palestine mandatory area when Britian relinquished the mandate one Jewish and one Arab.. (In parentheses, this is an odd dichotomy. Jewish is from adoption/conversion to the religion(that's how the original Jews became Jewish) or by descent from people that parcticed the religion. Being Arab is more cultural - certainly not religious. In fact, the concep tof Arab Jews used to exist until they were thrown out of their homes after 48) So what I think is important is not the basis for the identity but its consequences. If the identity leads to a prosperous, democratic, pluralistic society then good. If it goes the other way, then this is bad.

eric_5 said:



Wed, 2007-11-28 15:38
Israel is none of the above. It's a colonial power which is treating the natives with abominable savagery.

Michael T Sager said:



Wed, 2007-11-28 15:41
I first ran into this idea about 3 years ago at a seminar in Australia about Jewish - Palestineans relations, where the idea was used to attack Israel (no recognition that there was any possibility of mutuality in Truth and Reconciliation!!) The idea seems to have become a theme of the discourse since. I'm glad to see the author recognises that this should be mutual. But in this context it is much more complex that the original South African process. Primarily, because there are so many state or near-state actors. Apart from the obvious major players (Israel and the PA) - are Hamas and Hezbullah going to tell the truth about the kidnapped israeli soldiers? Are the handlers of the suicicide bomber who killed the head of trauma at a Jerusalem hospital and his daughter when they were sitting in a cafe the night before her wedding going to apologise? Is Syria going to explain why it tortured Israeli soldiers? Is Lebanon going to finally explain what happened to the Israeli flyer shot down over their country? Are Jordan and Egypt going to compensate the Palestineans for stealing their land when they invaded in 1948? Is the PLO going to expalin why they killed Olympic athletes in Germany? Are the North African countries and Iraq going to compensate the descendants of the 840,000 Jews they evicted after 1948? I wait with bated breath!

Michael T Sager said:



Wed, 2007-11-28 15:59
Re: Israel is none of the above. It's a colonial power which is treating the natives with abominable savagery. I must be mistaken. I thought is was Saudi Arabia where a women was sentenced to 200 lashes for being out on her own. And Sudan where the government is enabling the Janjaweed in killing, mutilating, raping and destroying. And of course it was aliens, not Israel, that established 7 universities in rhe West Bank, abolished the death penalty. eliminated malaria, and cut infant mortality by a factor of 5. Sorry. My bad

eric_5 said:



Wed, 2007-11-28 16:04
Is that three people we're talking about? How does it weigh in the balance against the 11,000 Palestinians, abducted by Israel and imprisoned without due process.?

kerrywinn said:



Sat, 2007-12-01 21:05
You have zero idea regarding the freight train headed your way. These Arabs, many of whom are children, are intent on murdering all Israelis and infidels, you are probably an infidel in their eyes. Foolish little person. When you lose your culture, your sense of right and wrong, you lose everything. Know your friends well, keep them close; know your enemies better to defeat them.

eric_5 said:



Wed, 2007-11-28 19:24
Saudi Arabia has an abominable regime, denounced by Osama Bin Laden, for some of the right reasons, but not all. It is not a colonial power, as Israel is. The alleged good deeds of Israel in the Palestinian Occupied Territories (if that's where they were supposed to have happened) are not without parallel in the colonies of European powers. Nevertheless, the evil that Israel has done is not erased by alleged good actions, nor is colonization itself justified, especially not now that the age of colonization is over. Zionists were particularly clumsy in establishing a colony as that era was ending. Blame Hitler, as the unwitting godfather to the enterprise.

eeh100 said:



Thu, 2007-11-29 09:52
Elie Elhadj - London A single state for Arabs and Jews in Palestine is the solution. Politicizing Genesis 15:18 politicized the Quran; instigating a religious war that could go on for a thousand years. The Zionist dream of an exclusive Jewish state in Palestine is unsustainable, unless the Palestinians vanish. Hundreds of thousands of Jews lived in Arab countries for centuries. In Coningsby, Benjamin Disraeli, first and so far the only Jewish British Prime Minister (1868 and 1874-1880), described in glowing terms the “halcyon centuries” in Muslim Spain where the “children of Ishmael rewarded the children of Israel with equal rights and privileges with themselves.” Sultan Bayezid-II (1481-1512) encouraged thousands of Jews to settle in the Muslim Ottoman Empire following their expulsion from Spain. Islam venerates Judaism. The Quran made Abraham as the first Muslim. Islam is the Religion of Abraham. The Quranic Chapter 14 is named after Abraham and, to Joseph the Quran names Chapter 12. Today, Jewish derived Arabic proper names are common. Around the time of Israel’s creation, more than 850,000 Jews migrated from Arab lands, 600,000 going to Israel. That the migration was due to Arab maltreatment of Jews is an unfair charge. The migration happened during Israel’s creation, when more than 500 Palestinian villages were de-populated and about 800,000 became refugees. Feeling powerless, the Arab masses invoked hostile Quranic Verses, recounted stories of the Prophet’s troubled relationship with the Jewish tribes in Medina, drew lessons from substituting Friday for the Sabbath and the direction during prayer from Jerusalem to Mecca. For thirteen centuries, however, these events were non-issues. Politicizing the Bible pushed frustrated moderate Arabs into orthodoxy and the orthodox into Jihadism. Witness the growth of Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Had Zionism adhered to the stipulation in the 1917 Balfour declaration: “Nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine,” this conflict would not have developed. The Bible and the Quran must be de-politicized. The two-state solution is capricious: First, demographically, a purely Jewish state is unachievable. Secondly, issues like Jerusalem, borders, security for Israel and for Palestine, water rights, settlements, and the refugees’ right-of-return are intractable. When Bill Clinton, Ehud Barak, and Yasser Arafat attempted in July 2000 to tackle these issues at Camp David, the negotiations collapsed, leading to the second intifada. Thirdly, even if a miracle patches up a two-state agreement, the extremists on both sides would undermine it. Fourthly, the Arab masses will shun a Zionist state. Judging from Israel’s peace treaties with Egypt (1979) and Jordan (1994), relations among the Egyptian and Jordanian masses and Israelis have failed to develop beyond small diplomatic missions. Western democratic and secular ideals and Jewish sense of justice should inspire a single, democratic, and secular state: First, the intractable obstacles would disappear. Secondly, a single state will commingle Palestinians and Jews into an inseparable mix. Arabs would no longer have an excuse to boycott their Jewish “cousins.” Economic, cultural, educational, and social interaction would follow. Thirdly, a single state solution would allow Arabs and Jews access to the entirety of Palestine. Durable peace requires the genuine welcome of the Arab masses of the Jewish people. The Jews who had lived among Arabs could be a positive factor. Both share customs, habits, values, food, music, dance, and, for the older generation, the Arabic language. In provoking the enmity of their age-old Muslim friends, Zionism has disserved the strategic interests of the Jewish people. In Christian Europe, by contrast, centuries of maltreatment of Jews culminated in the horrors of the Holocaust.

Brendan 2 said:



Sat, 2007-12-01 05:04
What is a "Jewish State" exactly. Ai_1 cannot explain, but he can explain that it is none of our business and that to question it at all is "racist". I believe "racist" is just a word used in this instance to shut up valid points that need to be understood, particularly in the United Sates. Annapolis provides much insight into how a "Jewish State" may be the exact root of the problem, and the greatest obstacle to peace in a whole mountain range of obstacles. Uri Avnery touches upon this in an article today: (snip) "This week, an obstacle larger then the Great Wall of China appeared. Ehud Olmert demanded that, before any negotiations, the Palestinians "recognize Israel as a Jewish state." He was followed by his coalition partner, the ultra-right Avigdor Liberman, who proposed staying away from Annapolis altogether if the Palestinians do not fulfill this demand in advance. Let's examine this condition for a moment: The Palestinians are not required to recognize the state of Israel. After all, they have already done so in the Oslo agreement – in spite of the fact that Israel has yet to recognize the right of the Palestinians to a state of their own based on the Green Line borders. No, the government of Israel demands much more: the Palestinians must now recognize Israel as a "Jewish state." Does the USA demand to be recognized as a "Christian" or "Anglo-Saxon state"? Did Stalin demand that the US recognize the Soviet Union as a "Communist state"? Does Poland demand to be recognized as a "Catholic state", or Pakistan as an "Islamic state"? Is there any precedent at all for a state to demand the recognition of its domestic regime? The demand is ridiculous per se. But this can easily be shown by analysis ad absurdum. What is a "Jewish state"? That has never been spelled out. Is it a state with a majority of Jewish citizens? Is it "the state of the Jewish people" – meaning the Jews from Brooklyn, Paris and Moscow? Is it "a state belonging to the Jewish religion" – and if so, does it belong to secular Jews as well? Or perhaps it belongs only to Jews under the Law of Return – i.e. those with a Jewish mother who have not converted to another religion? These questions have not been decided. Are the Palestinians required to recognize something that is the subject of debate in Israel itself? According to the official doctrine, Israel is a "Jewish and democratic state." What should the Palestinians do if, according to democratic principles, some day my opinion prevails and Israel becomes an "Israeli state" that belongs to all its citizens – and to them alone? (After all, the US belongs to all its citizens, including Hispanic-Americans, African-Americans, not to mention "Native-Americans.") The sting is, of course, that this formula is quite unacceptable to Palestinians because it would hurt the million and a half Palestinians who are Israeli citizens. The definition "Jewish state" turns them automatically into – at best – second class citizens. If Mahmoud Abbas and his colleagues were to accede to this demand, they would be sticking a knife in the backs of their own relatives. Olmert & Co. know this, of course. They are not posing this demand in order to get it accepted. They pose it in order that it not be accepted. By this ploy they hope to avoid any obligation to start meaningful negotiations."

kerrywinn said:



Sat, 2007-12-01 21:29
Most of the Middle-East considers itself a Muslim state! Reread history, and realize that the lion's share of the land went to Arabs. The Jews purchased most of the land! http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tmp696sy8.jpg

kerrywinn said:



Sat, 2007-12-01 20:38
"Peace is not reconciliation. What is needed between Israelis and Palestinians is genuine reconciliation. This has to start with an acknowledgment of the genuine claims of the Palestinians and the acceptance of responsibility for what happened to them." How about the injustice inflicted upon the Israelis who purchased 80% of the land they live on. How about the fact that most of the Arab Middle-East is RACIST, and INTOLERANT OF OTHER FAITHS. Which group instigated the violence back in 1919, and in 1948. The Arab World refuses to acknowledge Israel, and most in Europe, as usual, haven't enough backbone to stand-up to Arab money, intolerance, and oil. Just as you did not in the 1930's. The UK may soon be living under Sharia law as many of its communities already do. You have already lost most of your British Heritage and culture, There is no England anymore. When you lose your culture, your sense of right and wrong, you lose everything. Know your friends well, keep them close; know your enemies better to defeat them.

Brendan 2 said:



Sat, 2007-12-01 23:52
Islamic republics are equally abhorrent. Do you seriously contend that Jews "purchased most of the land"? Most of the land was, and continues to be confiscated. Read stolen. The Jewish National Fund owned approximately 12.5% of the land on which Israel created itself as a state. This is not close to "most" of the land Israel now occupies.

eric_5 said:



Sun, 2007-12-02 11:07
Tribal nationalists, Jewish, Arab or other are the enemy. The Jewish State and its criminal activities are the most powerful stimulant of virulent Arab nationalism, obviously.

abdulksaida said:



Sun, 2007-12-02 19:00
kerrywinn 1- if palestinians sell their lands and have that money so why still their are 5 million refugees scattered all over the world and live miserable life especially in camps my parents mercy on them and their grandfathers and mothers loose all their lands when jewish steal their property and leave their own land . you know nothing about land and palestine and about history . Read well history and read from all sides and dont be bias.

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